Feedback Time (again)!

#21
I like the ideas from Ynef and Roe, but if we would do this, then we kinda decide what people would have to do. People have always been able to join this server and go play the game as they wish.
If this is something the player base would like to see coming up, then some few players could take initiative and start this. But I kinda see a lot of players just joining the biggest/best town and go with them, but that does necessarily mean it is bad, but you maybe end putting all on one side.
You could make a world where you made the cities in the proper places and made it all look good, but then the world would be roleplay and the players can't go play minecraft as we do now.
But I really like this idea and would certainly play this, but as I wrote before, then it is a step the other way of the current playstyle here and perhaps a bigger player base would be needed before you could make such a world.
But if we would make such a world, then we would get a lot of players, because I don't think there is a lot servers having such a world. (I assume this btw)
 
#22
Ofcourse there wont be just areas for those cities. There could be a area in the middle of the land that cant have any town but people could live there. But if the idea of only being able to protect your stuff in a town would pass then you wont be 100% safe there.
And it isnt like there could be only one dwarven and one elvish town. Think we should start with that and maybe if a member of a town makes enough money he can start his own town.
 
#23
You are thinking the same shit Im thinking Roe!
All cities wouldn't necessarily have to be mythical or such, a normal 'human'city like SuperCity could get its place too

And Heste, you are right about th free playing style maybe. I was thinking we start off with a setting and players can fill in the future. Towns that start off at war might sign peace treaties or something, but that would be up to the mayors. The world will develop and people might go and get their own city perhaps, if there is need for more cities. Starting off with a written history on how everything in the world came to be would be a good start to get players into the roleplay. Going as far as making new members join a city to start off with could be done even.
 

fdrandel

Nation Builder
#24
Are we talking about an entirely new map or keeping the same one? Mike & myself put a crap ton of work into Eisengard that if we start a new map I would need it WE'd over. We're effectively on an island so it shouldn't be too difficult in theory.
 
#25
We are talking about ideas for a next world. That doesn't mean we want the change next month. But we are trying to come with ideas so a next world would work better
 
#26
I myself would say if we get a new map, we could get this map as a crative world for people to finish their large builds?

But in my opinion we can wait a while longer before resetting or anything, Im still enjoying this map :D
 
#27
Tbh, I would love to see the current map we are on up for the next year, these ideas a few of you have for towny wars can be done at any time if you think about it, the point would be to build the town with your members, and defend it you don't have to use towny or ps for this and make an arrangement with other towns to have full out war with each other and keep it that way.
The ideas both hest and yanf have can be done, there is no need at all for any map reset, or anything like that, I'm surprised this haven't been done yet
 
#28
Shut me up if i am going to far.

If you take the idea of ynef that there are different kind of towns. So dwarves, elvish etc. and then divide the land in like different regions. With a region for every kind of people or maybe 2 on every part of the world. Then they could deside to work together and attack the other parts or just attack eachother.
Would be even better if people really build in the style that there town is but that is difficult for some. Like ynef and menty and me always go for a theme but super town is always just buildings. We will have to get them to stick to a theme
Thats more personal preference. Forcing people to build in some fairy tale theme def wont work. Some are really into that kinda stuff but to me its more kiddish and fairy tale like. Like role playing and shit and I that would be to drastic of a move for MMC.

I wouldn't be opposed to removing the PS stones plugin but some just don't like towny (like myself) Never been a fan. I def enjoy living with and build with my friends for sure that's why most of us choose MP over SP. But we have to offer some kind of protection for nubs who wanna role solo. In place we could possibly use lockette plugin for nubs to protect doors and chests n things. Precious stones offers so much more than just grief protection though and thats why I have always loved it so much. Its perfect for some and not so much for others.

As far as voting, if we give them incentive to vote the will vote. I remember at the tree spawn I used to vote just to have my name up on the sign lol But $35 per vote in a world that has 1.8 million dollars in the eco just aint much. We almost wanna make them HAVE to vote everyday because it would be dumb not to.

What if the MAIN way of getting money in our world was through voting. Super minimal awards for ores n things BUT super awesome rewards for voting everyday. (Vote at least 6 times a day to get a $500 reward + $75 per vote) Then if people want money it almost forces them to vote but they still have the choice to make money other ways.

With so many plugins developers not updating plugins to current versions its hard to find awesome up to date plugins that are free or keep the cool ones we already have.

@Tercept will check out those that you posted and update my thoughts on them shortly. Thanks
 
#29
Tbh, I would love to see the current map we are on up for the next year, these ideas a few of you have for towny wars can be done at any time if you think about it, the point would be to build the town with your members, and defend it you don't have to use towny or ps for this and make an arrangement with other towns to have full out war with each other and keep it that way.
The ideas both hest and yanf have can be done, there is no need at all for any map reset, or anything like that, I'm surprised this haven't been done yet
We have had 1 towny war since adding towny....1 No one here really pvps or has an interest to go attack others towns. You would have 5 people from each town fighting. To me towny war is 10v10 or better. THATS a war what you guys are talking about is a simple battle. Some would go for it but we dont have the players for all out world wars. Shit i wish we did.

This map will not last the next year unfortunately just don't see it possible bro. As of right now I don't know if we should reset but I definitely wouldn't mind it. I think we need to improve and try to fix the problems at hand but like I said a month ago. The path we are on now we got about 2-3 months tops and the server map is deadski. Lots of people are already "bored" with this map. Ive even heard you personally say "im bored idk what to do" and that's exactly where Im at homie. I LOVE survival truly do but ours is not challenging and the eco's pretty jacked so In a way i would kinda love a reset but idk how users would feel about it at this point maybe to early.

People have achieved some pretty crazy builds because of the tools, perks they were allowed to have. Not trying to put you in the spot like dwa Yes i know you guys used a good bit of TNT. But A LOT and I mean A LOT of it was eff 10 picks and fly building to create a wither skeleton farm which can be eco breaking itself. I just know that project would still be going go had those perks not been available. Other mods have gold farms like myself which were WAY to easy to get with eff 10 picks. Shit I had a double stack of obsidian in 1 day, That's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. No challenge man.... So the question is so do we take a pre-raped map if you will and back flip it to work again? You cant turn a hoe into a house wife lol
 
#30
@Boosted_FG2 i didn't mean that everybody has to build in a theme like elfish and such but there can of course also be a human town or towns.

For the reset if it happens I would say make sure the new map is finished first. With that I mean make sure you guys added all the buildings you want to add and I hope also the quests
 
#31
ive been saying this for a while but i think mods will really make things more interesting like more building options maybe even another dimension more weapons etc. Also we should start promoting open pvp again because just building gets immensely boring
 
#32
ive been saying this for a while but i think mods will really make things more interesting like more building options maybe even another dimension more weapons etc. Also we should start promoting open pvp again because just building gets immensely boring
The server is aiming for more vanilla kinda gameplay, so adding something like that, would be a step away. (The mods and different weapons and such.) + If we start using mods, where people would have to download something to join, then people would stop joining.
I suggest players start taking initiative and go start something. For example one big city calling war upon someone else. Or you gather up a lot of people and go out in the wild building 2 castles and go bezerk on eachother. :)
 
#33
The server is aiming for more vanilla kinda gameplay, so adding something like that, would be a step away. (The mods and different weapons and such.) + If we start using mods, where people would have to download something to join, then people would stop joining.
I suggest players start taking initiative and go start something. For example one big city calling war upon someone else. Or you gather up a lot of people and go out in the wild building 2 castles and go bezerk on eachother. :)
vanilla is dead and the player base with it and the players dont want to download mods argument has been going on for a while and i frankly disagree i believe if we post a detailed tutorial on how to download them and actually educate players on how to make them work i think we could have a lot of fun on this server provided useful mods are applied and not useless ones, And as for players leaving that dont want to download the mods i say short term loss for long term gain.
 
#34
vanilla is dead and the player base with it and the players don't want to download mods argument has been going on for a while and i frankly disagree i believe if we post a detailed tutorial on how to download them and actually educate players on how to make them work i think we could have a lot of fun on this server provided useful mods are applied and not useless ones, And as for players leaving that don't want to download the mods i say short term loss for long term gain.
Vanilla is not dead far from it I would say.... Minecraft is vanilla. There are millions who enjoy just a standard vanilla survival server with a minimal plugins. What you mean to say is that its dead for you and others that have been playing for 3-5 years. Anyone still play the original Modern Warfare, Forza 1, Halo 1 Maden 97?.... Yea me either. At the end of the day its still minecraft. To lose 75% of our players to pamper to the more OP mc players & modded server feel does not seem like a good idea to me. I would be more open a multiverse world where we had one modded world and one towny/ps/vanilla world (set up better) But gearing solely towards modded minecraft is a tremendous user base slash.

Would some of our current players download and player "with a detailed install guide"? yes.. But people searching for modded server are prob much less than people searching for survival servers I would imagine anyway.
 

fffizzz

Administrator
Adman
#35
People seeking survival servers is indeed higher than modded servers, but non-modded, survival is at the bottom of the list.
 
#36
So the other thing that people need to think about is, what do you do when your tired of playing minecraft, just keep playing, or take a break, I know for a fact that more then half the player base on mmc is not 100% minecraft players as they do enjoy the game, there's tones of more out there to play, garrys mod, counter strike, battlefield, players still have xbox 360, play station, all this entertainment around them, so to say a player doesent like mmc because they don't like the game type we offer is nonsense, me my self if I'm not on its because I like to play other games and I'm sure most players are the same, tbh I don't see any issue with the player base dropping, I just see that they need a break from minecraft all together, for the most part, yes it would be nice to offer a little more like a creative world, and a model server type to attract different players, but in do time those players would get tired of playing on those game types as well so there is no correcting the issue tbh. To reset the current world right now is just silly as there is so much more you can do, you can drop everything your doing and venture off to someplace different and build new there, it's that simple. Taking away mcmmo is something that can be messed around with, we have the abilities to make it so there are no dbl drops, items received from dirt and such, but the truth behind it is that it offers the players incentive, and most enjoy it.

What I can see here is that a very, very select few want a model server, and I mean very select few, my honest opinion, why not, we have the resources to support it as many many servers have a lot less then we do and offer so much more, I would vote yes for that being added into a server of its own along with creative, as it has been talked about largely.

The other question that was asked is what would you donate for, as I personally think the prices are high and can be much less, look at the 10 dollar donations for example, we got many donations for those because they were cool donations and cheep to get, 35 for the pet pack that has the dragon, and another 20 to 30 to make it fly, WOW, I know personally I make enough money to get that, but I also have 3 kids and bills to pay, now take that into consideration when looking at how to attract donations from other players that have a life to support, kids, bills, food, and such, if the server offered many cheep donation packs, then the server would see more donations, I thought I proved this as players were eager to donate for the mining kit and $10 dragon pet.

I would say adjust the prices a little more and offer as much as you can as I would of like to see a larger player base enter the drawing for the great tab I'm raffling away,

More on worlds, I'd like to see the dungeon as I loved it, and we have a larger new player base that has never seen it, creative, even tho we don't really have a bunch of players to enjoy it, it should be there to attract the different player group, molded minecraft, there is a player base for both survival and modded and we do attract players who like survival, now let's try another group and keep survival as went the modded group doesent want to play there modded part, there's survival. Mini game would be great for the kids of mmc as we do have a ton of those, as was sudjested at one time and would offer a tone of fun things to do, we have pvp, casino, and the flint game that players do enjoy

I could say so much more, but at this point I'm sure your all tired of reading
 
#37
So the other thing that people need to think about is, what do you do when your tired of playing minecraft, just keep playing, or take a break, I know for a fact that more then half the player base on mmc is not 100% minecraft players as they do enjoy the game, there's tones of more out there to play, garrys mod, counter strike, battlefield, players still have xbox 360, play station, all this entertainment around them, so to say a player doesent like mmc because they don't like the game type we offer is nonsense, me my self if I'm not on its because I like to play other games and I'm sure most players are the same, tbh I don't see any issue with the player base dropping, I just see that they need a break from minecraft all together, for the most part, yes it would be nice to offer a little more like a creative world, and a model server type to attract different players, but in do time those players would get tired of playing on those game types as well so there is no correcting the issue tbh. To reset the current world right now is just silly as there is so much more you can do, you can drop everything your doing and venture off to someplace different and build new there, it's that simple. Taking away mcmmo is something that can be messed around with, we have the abilities to make it so there are no dbl drops, items received from dirt and such, but the truth behind it is that it offers the players incentive, and most enjoy it.

What I can see here is that a very, very select few want a model server, and I mean very select few, my honest opinion, why not, we have the resources to support it as many many servers have a lot less then we do and offer so much more, I would vote yes for that being added into a server of its own along with creative, as it has been talked about largely.

The other question that was asked is what would you donate for, as I personally think the prices are high and can be much less, look at the 10 dollar donations for example, we got many donations for those because they were cool donations and cheep to get, 35 for the pet pack that has the dragon, and another 20 to 30 to make it fly, WOW, I know personally I make enough money to get that, but I also have 3 kids and bills to pay, now take that into consideration when looking at how to attract donations from other players that have a life to support, kids, bills, food, and such, if the server offered many cheep donation packs, then the server would see more donations, I thought I proved this as players were eager to donate for the mining kit and $10 dragon pet.

I would say adjust the prices a little more and offer as much as you can as I would of like to see a larger player base enter the drawing for the great tab I'm raffling away,

More on worlds, I'd like to see the dungeon as I loved it, and we have a larger new player base that has never seen it, creative, even tho we don't really have a bunch of players to enjoy it, it should be there to attract the different player group, molded minecraft, there is a player base for both survival and modded and we do attract players who like survival, now let's try another group and keep survival as went the modded group doesent want to play there modded part, there's survival. Mini game would be great for the kids of mmc as we do have a ton of those, as was sudjested at one time and would offer a tone of fun things to do, we have pvp, casino, and the flint game that players do enjoy

I could say so much more, but at this point I'm sure your all tired of reading
with mods we can make our own custom content for dungeons or our own donation perk items and pets "donate $10 and get this sweet fucking llama with bat wings" you know stuff like that and yes im aware creating mods can take forever depending on what your making but i think this could work. And for the record im not suggesting mods because im personally bored of minecraft im just tossing useful ideas out there that may actually increase the player base of this server, so in saying that i should probably also say that advertisement may me up there in things we should do to increase the player base.
 
#38
The only ''mod/plugins'' i would like to see added, would be more building blocks, theres not many options in vanilla, if you want a green build theres only Wool, Clay and glass which gets boring fast, if theres like a paint mod added, you could have every texture painted the color you want, like green bricks, stone etc.
 
#39
So the other thing that people need to think about is, what do you do when your tired of playing minecraft, just keep playing, or take a break, I know for a fact that more then half the player base on mmc is not 100% minecraft players as they do enjoy the game, there's tones of more out there to play, garrys mod, counter strike, battlefield, players still have xbox 360, play station, all this entertainment around them, so to say a player doesent like mmc because they don't like the game type we offer is nonsense, me my self if I'm not on its because I like to play other games and I'm sure most players are the same, tbh I don't see any issue with the player base dropping, I just see that they need a break from minecraft all together, for the most part, yes it would be nice to offer a little more like a creative world, and a model server type to attract different players, but in do time those players would get tired of playing on those game types as well so there is no correcting the issue tbh. To reset the current world right now is just silly as there is so much more you can do, you can drop everything your doing and venture off to someplace different and build new there, it's that simple. Taking away mcmmo is something that can be messed around with, we have the abilities to make it so there are no dbl drops, items received from dirt and such, but the truth behind it is that it offers the players incentive, and most enjoy it.

What I can see here is that a very, very select few want a model server, and I mean very select few, my honest opinion, why not, we have the resources to support it as many many servers have a lot less then we do and offer so much more, I would vote yes for that being added into a server of its own along with creative, as it has been talked about largely.

The other question that was asked is what would you donate for, as I personally think the prices are high and can be much less, look at the 10 dollar donations for example, we got many donations for those because they were cool donations and cheep to get, 35 for the pet pack that has the dragon, and another 20 to 30 to make it fly, WOW, I know personally I make enough money to get that, but I also have 3 kids and bills to pay, now take that into consideration when looking at how to attract donations from other players that have a life to support, kids, bills, food, and such, if the server offered many cheep donation packs, then the server would see more donations, I thought I proved this as players were eager to donate for the mining kit and $10 dragon pet.

I would say adjust the prices a little more and offer as much as you can as I would of like to see a larger player base enter the drawing for the great tab I'm raffling away,

More on worlds, I'd like to see the dungeon as I loved it, and we have a larger new player base that has never seen it, creative, even tho we don't really have a bunch of players to enjoy it, it should be there to attract the different player group, molded minecraft, there is a player base for both survival and modded and we do attract players who like survival, now let's try another group and keep survival as went the modded group doesent want to play there modded part, there's survival. Mini game would be great for the kids of mmc as we do have a ton of those, as was sudjested at one time and would offer a tone of fun things to do, we have pvp, casino, and the flint game that players do enjoy

I could say so much more, but at this point I'm sure your all tired of reading
To say people don't like our server because of the gameplay we offer is not nonsense. Because we wouldn't be trying to improve our game play style if people really loved it. Which is why this thread is going to improve it. Most of our MMC user base plays here because their friends are here. But there are not many new users that are coming in and staying. which means we're not offering them the style of gameplay they desire
 

Xoloz

Builder
Donor Level 2
#40
I can personally say that, being one who suddenly disappeared from playing, the map move was awkward and, although necessary, killed my desire to play. Being a player that is all about vanilla survival, I should have just started over then, but it was lame still having all my stats and select items. I admit, if I had started over, I would've still been playing right now, but it also is awkward when entire towns are plopped awkwardly into the environment. Kills the entire vanilla feeling of things.

I'm honestly all for a map reset, and with minimal mods. At most, just MCMMO to give things that flavor, but besides that, it should be kept simple. MMC, for as long as I've been here, has done best when things are kept simple. I think the awkward map move caused many players to fizzle out. Like I said, I should have started over, but after the amount of time I spent on the custom map, I just got burnt out. I know the mods, specifically Wolf, Dwa, and Boosted, were totally going to help me in moving over my ridiculously huge circular wall, and the city inside, but at that point, it wouldn't have fit "prettily" in the new map, and I knew it.

TL;DR, Let's have a map reset :)
 
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